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COURT OF APPEAL (CIVIL DIVISION)
ON APPEAL FROM QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION, COMMERCIAL COURTS
(MR JUSTICE BLAIR)
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
LORD JUSTICE LONGMORE
and
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN
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THAMES WATER UTILITIES LTD |
Appellant |
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HEATHROW AIRPORT LTD & ANR |
Respondent |
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Mr J McCaughran QC (instructed by Ashurst LLP) appeared on behalf of the Respondent.
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Lord Justice Longmore:
"[Heathrow] and [Thames Water] shall use all reasonable endeavours to reach agreement […] as to the bases upon which:-
(a) the sewage treatment works for the Site would have been operated as from 1989 until 2040 on the assumption that this Agreement and the Interim Arrangement had not been entered into and on the further assumption (if not actually the case) that the Works had not been authorised by the planning authority or the Secretary of State and
(b) on a calendar year basis the works comprised in the scheme would be operated, maintained and replaced to the standard applicable thereto […] until 2040
in order to calculate the amount of such additional costs to be paid by [Heathrow] under the provisions of this Clause 7.3.2"
"It being common ground that the matter to be determined by the expert appointed pursuant to Clause 7.3.2.1 of the Agreement is the bases set out in sub-paragraphs (a) and (b) of Clause 7.3.2.1 and that the expert is to make a final, once and for all, determination:
(1) whether the said bases include hypothetical mode of operation in the sewage treatment works for the Perry Oaks site as from 1989 until 2040 on the assumptions set out in sub-paragraph (a) of Clause 7.3.2.1 -- as the Claimants contend; or
(2) whether the expert should not determine the hypothetical costs of operation at the Site, and whether his determination may provide for the detailed manner or mode of operation of the Site (in accordance with the bases of operation he determines) to be agreed or determined on an annual or other periodic basis to take account of future events, such as changes in regulation or legislation -- as the Defendants contend."
Lord Justice Patten:
Lord Justice Dyson:
Order: Appeal dismissed
MR McCAUGHRAN: My Lords, in the light of your Lordships' judgments, I seek costs of the appeal.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Are we being invited it sounds as if we have not been invited to make a summary assessment?
MR McCAUGHRAN: My Lord we have not prepared a schedule that would enable your Lordships
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: I assumed you had done it. It is a short appeal, half a day.
MR McCAUGHRAN: Yes, no doubt we should have done but I fear we have not so I am not in a position to hand that up, but we seek therefore the costs to be assessed. Before the learned judge we sought an interim payment in relation to those costs and were awarded £100,000. I make an application before your Lordships for an interim payment bearing in mind that I do not have a schedule of costs to show your Lordships.
LORD JUSTICE LONGMORE: That's rather an ambitious submission, isn't it, Mr McCaughran, in the absence of any schedule?
MR McCAUGHRAN: I was going to keep it modest, my Lord, though not nominal.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: £50,000?
MR McCAUGHRAN: Indeed.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: That's modest, is it?
MR McCAUGHRAN: That was my application or such other figure as your Lordships should determine, my Lords …
LORD JUSTICE DYSON: You know this practice, which is now becoming almost routine in relation to short appeals, of not putting in the summaries, leads to considerably extended costs. I mean, the whole idea of that is you avoid a detailed assessment and all the costs involved in that assessment
MR McCAUGHRAN: My Lord, of course and I can only apologise for that omission on our part.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Is there any reason why we shouldn't make an order that you shouldn't have the costs of the assessment? It is quite unnecessary this assessment. There is really no reason whatever why we shouldn't have been asked been able to make a summary assessment.
MR McCAUGHRAN: My Lord, on that , it doesn't go directly to the point your Lordship raises, but in the round we have had to come to this court pursuant to the leave granted by Toulson LJ …
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Yes.
MR McCAUGHRAN: … and in granting Toulson LJ expressed the view that insofar as the reformulated declaratory relief statement in my learned friend's skeleton argument was concerned, he could see no reasonable prospect of success.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Yes.
MR McCAUGHRAN: But there were other matters which he thought might be worth the consideration of this court. As things have turned out, the matters which Toulson LJ thought might be raised by Heathrow have not been raised and so they have persisted in an appeal in the teeth of the learned judge's refusal and of Toulson LJ expressing the view that there was no real prospect of success.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: But none of that has any bearing on whether we should be making a summary assessment of costs.
MR McCAUGHRAN: No, I entirely accept that but one views it in the round and there is a case that I could have been asking for indemnity costs …
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Well you are not asking …
MR McCAUGHRAN: … consistent with my modest approach to this I have not done that, so that is what I say
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Thank you very much. Mr Wilmot-Smith?
MR WILMOT-SMITH: My Lord, if my learned friend wishes to recover the costs he should have come up with a …
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Did you?
MR WILMOT-SMITH: No.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Ah, you have one.
MR WILMOT-SMITH: Yes. I can hand it to my learned friend but it is not going to help, so I say first of all that this is ours so I don't think it is going to help your Lordships.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Well, we are being asked to … we are being asked to order an interim payment of costs. First of all, do you accept you cannot resist an order for costs?
MR WILMOT-SMITH: I do.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Right. Now, what about … so there has got to be a detailed assessment.
MR WILMOT-SMITH: There is going to have to be a detailed assessment and as your Lordship rightly suggested to my learned friend, that should not be paid for by us.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Right, now what about an interim payment?
MR WILMOT-SMITH: So far as an interim payment is concerned, the economics of costs now are such that the losing party, it is in their interests to make interim payment as soon as they possibly can because of the interest provision. We suggest that your Lordship do not make an order for interim payment in relation to this appeal and the parties can resolve that between themselves. There are two substantial parties…
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Yes
LORD JUSTICE LONGMORE: Insofar as we are in the business of penalising Mr McCaughran because he has not produced a schedule, it seems to me to be more appropriate to penalise him by refusing to make an order for interim payment rather than saying you should have a free ride on any costs assessment.
MR WILMOT-SMITH: My, Lord the point about … I am sorry I probably jumped to a conclusion of what your Lordship said …
LORD JUSTICE LONGMORE: (Inaudible).
MR WILMOT-SMITH: Do you mind saying it again just so I can (inaudible), I'm sorry.
LORD JUSTICE LONGMORE: Insofar as we are in the business of penalising Mr McCaughran because he has not produced a schedule, it seems to me, slightly differing from my Lord and that is why I make the point, that it is more appropriate to penalise him by not giving him an interim payment at all but rather than to say that you should have a free ride on the assessment. My Lord suggests that we should deprive him of the costs of the assessment and you naturally agreed with that, but I do wonder because that means it gives you every incentive to be as difficult as possible. Perhaps that's a scandalous … implication.
MR WILMOT-SMITH: I don't think these parties are in the business of being difficult in that regard, and so far as the costs are concerned, that that can be dealt with, so far as the reasonable costs are concerned (inaudible). But the fact is we are going to be put to an assessment which otherwise we would not be put to and is there any reason on earth why we should pay for that? So far as the interim payment is concerned, that is not a matter of … that really is not a matter of penalising my learned friend. If we, if we persist in not paying an interim payment my learned friend is going to get a rather greater amount of interest than he otherwise would so it is not actually going to help him … sorry, penalise him or penalise us either way … that has to be a matter for the parties, and if push came to shove I would be happy to (inaudible) an interim payment, it is just a question of where the money goes at that particular moment, but so far as the additional costs are concerned that is where the shoe pinches.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Well, thank you anyway.
MR McCAUGHRAN: My Lord, I am so sorry, there is one material point which I should have mentioned and it is this. On our side my instructing solicitors are doing this case on a conditional fee arrangement, and as I understand it that means that there would need to be an assessment in any event in order for the court to assess the amount of the uplift and that may be the reason why …
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: You are saying 'maybe' … I mean surely those behind you know whether it is or it isn't.
MR McCAUGHRAN: Yes I will check that. I am so sorry, my Lord, I misunderstood … that is not the reason but it is the case that there will be an assessment in any event.
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: Right we will just retire for a minute to (inaudible)….
(Pause)
LORD JUSTICE PATTEN: So the order of the court is that the appeal is dismissed with costs. We have been asked to make an interim payment of costs and we have been asked to make an order that there should be a detailed assessment of costs. We have no alternative but to make a detailed assessment of costs. It is not clear to us whether in view of the fact, as we have been told, that the respondent's solicitors are on a conditional fee agreement, whether this court could have made a summary assessment of costs. Ordinarily, an appeal of this kind, one would have expected to have been provided with material to enable us to make a summary assessment of costs. We have not been provided with a schedule to enable the court to do that by the respondent's solicitors, and although there may be some doubt as to what the legal position is, in view of the fact that we have not been provided with a schedule and the reason for the non-provision of the schedule has nothing to do with the fact that it may be the case the summary assessments cannot be made where a conditional fee agreement is in existence, we think that the respondents should not have the costs of the detailed assessment and for the same reason we do not propose to make an interim payment of costs.
Thank you very much. Thank you both of you for your helpful (inaudible).