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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales Family Court Decisions (other Judges) >> London Borough of Richmond v Sally & Ors [2024] EWFC 335 (B) (08 November 2024) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWFC/OJ/2024/335.html Cite as: [2024] EWFC 335 (B) |
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B e f o r e :
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THE LONDON BOROUGH OF RICHMOND |
Applicant |
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(1) SALLY (2) BOB (3) SIMON (4-5) JANE & PETER (through their children's guardian) |
Respondents |
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Damien Stuart (instructed by Lovell Chohan Solicitors) for the First Respondent Mother
Jean-Paul Sinclair (instructed by Mackenzie & Co Solicitors) for the Second Respondent Father
Hillary Pollock (instructed by Hecht Montgomery Solicitors) for the Third Respondent Father
Sandra Fisher (instructed by Beu Solicitors) for the Fourth and Fifth Respondent Children
Hearing dates: 6-8 November 2024
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Crown Copyright ©
His Honour Judge Willans:
Introduction
Legal Principles
Background
Resolution of Factual Matters
- An incident in January 2023 when Sally called the police when criminal damage was caused to her property. Simon was arrested in relative proximity to the property
- Telephone disclosure through to October 2023 which suggested a very high level of call and text messaging between the two
- A report of the parents being seen together in late May 2023
- An occasion on which the social worker received a call from Simon and it appeared Peter may have been in his company (whilst not at the contact centre)
- Reports from Olivia of social media posts which suggested to her Simon was in contact with the children
- Evidence of the parents travelling to Spain in early June 2023 on the same plane
- Simon not engaging in a process of contact risk assessment with the suggestion this reflected the fact he was having contact in any event.
- I am in little doubt the parents' relationship extended beyond that accepted by the parents. In particular I accept the evidence from the contact worker of seeing the parents together at the end of May 2023. Whilst I have regard to the dangers arising with respect to identification evidence (see R v Turnbull [1977] QB 224) I consider this is a reliable and correct identification having regard to in particular:
- The familiarity the worker had with the parents through her work at the centre
- The opportunity and time she had to view the parents as the car in which she rode passed them at slow speed
- The relative proximity of the parents to her with her being in the passenger seat of the car and the family on the pavement to her near side
- The absence of any environmental factors that might diminish the quality of the identification
- The immediate conclusion she reached
- The absence of any elements of surrounding drama or fright that might cast unreliability on the identification
- The narrative of the account, of recognising the family group and observing them as she slowly passed by.
I have reflected on the parental evidence but I favour the evidence of the contact worker without equivocation. I acknowledge Sally provides evidence of her whereabouts at a point in time on that day. But that is by no means inconsistent with also being seen as alleged. I also draw on my other findings (the findings are inevitably to an extent cross-supporting although I have considered each individually) of Sally continuing to be in communication with Simon. In such circumstances it begs the question why she would not permit him to have this form of contact.
- I am equally persuaded that the burden of messaging found in the telephone disclosure represents parental contact not messaging between Sally and the third party. I did not find the evidence relating to the friend credible in the light of the very extensive nature of the messaging or the timing of many of the messages (late into the night). I have regard to the disclosure of similar messaging within the fact-finding process and there is a strong similarity in play. Having regard to the timing of the messaging I am in little doubt this reflects a relationship beyond that described by the parents. I do not consider it to be consistent with the occasional updates suggested. It is far beyond that and in my judgment likely reflects more emotional adult communications. I neither can nor need to reach a conclusion as to the content of the messaging but I am in no doubt it is adult in quality.
- As regards the Spain trip I do in some regards accept Sally's evidence as to the circumstances in which this arose. But I consider it likely she was relaxed about the change in plan and Simon travelling on the same flight given the generalised openness to contact suggested by my findings above. But I do not find they were effectively on holiday together. I note Bob's evidence of speaking to Jane whilst on holiday and picking up no signs of Simon's presence. I do bear in mind there is some evidence of Jane withholding information.
- I find it likely Simon was in company with Peter when he appears to have potentially misdialled the social worker and was heard to refer to Peter. I found the account of this being a different child incredible in the light of my broad findings.
- I do not consider the reports from Olivia take the case any further given my essential finding including ongoing contact and likely attendance of Simon at the property (see above)
- I find it likely Simon was at the property in January 2023. I make no finding as to actual criminal damage as I have limited evidence for doing so. But it is likely there was some disharmony which led to the police call. I am suspicious as to this being a repeat the type of events found within my earlier findings but I make no specific finding.
- I am highly suspicious the parents did resume an intimate relationship during this period but I only find that their relationship continued to have an emotional adult element. Whether it once again became sexual does not materially impact on the resolution of this case.
Welfare Analysis
Conclusion
- I intend to extend a non-molestation order until 4pm on 8 November 2032. The terms of the order will be amended to covering the contact provisions only as found in the last order [§§1 and 4 of that order]
- I intend to continue the prohibited steps order against Sally on both a direct and indirect basis. This will continue for the same period as above. Any contact must be consistent with professional guidance and a likely risk assessment.
- I accept an undertaking from sally not to personally communicate with Simon. I will suggest this be for the same period.
- Each of the above should be disclosed to the prison at which Simon is accommodated and should travel with him as part of his file. The prison should be cognisant of these restrictions.
- I leave contact between Jane and Bob to be a matter of flexible agreement between the parents.
i) I consider Simon should receive a welfare update on an annual basis.
ii) In addition, she should be able to send 3 cards/short letters each year at Christmas, Peter's birthday and around the time of the Summer holiday.
In my assessment the management of this will in the first instance be the responsibility of authority X. I consider it will be an important part of the supervision order to plot a strategy for how this will be managed post supervision order. It may be the resources available for letter box contact can be used to facilitate the same. I do not want to draw sally into direct communication with Simon and would hope a structure can be set to avoid this going forward.
His Honour Judge Willans
Note 1 There was a removal hearing in late June 2024 based on much of the above which post-dated the Spain trip in which sally allowed this fact to pass without mention [Back]