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England and Wales High Court (Technology and Construction Court) Decisions |
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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales High Court (Technology and Construction Court) Decisions >> Walter Lilly & Company Ltd v Mackay & Anor [2012] EWHC 649 (TCC) (15 March 2012) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/TCC/2012/649.html Cite as: 141 ConLR 102, [2012] BLR 249, [2012] 6 Costs LO 809, [2012] EWHC 649 (TCC) |
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QUEEN'S BENCH DIVISION
TECHNOLOGY AND CONSTRUCTION COURT
Strand, London, WC2A 2LL |
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B e f o r e :
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WALTER LILLY & COMPANY LIMITED |
Claimant |
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(1) GILES PATRICK CYRIL MACKAY (2) DMW DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED |
Defendants |
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David Sears QC, Serena Cheng and David Johnson (instructed by Nabarros LLP) for the Defendant
Hearing dates: 12-13 March 2012
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Crown Copyright ©
Mr Justice Akenhead:
"Advocate/Director/Legally Qualified Person [and] Adjudication Manager/Delay Analyst/Expert Witness"
" In cases where it appears to the Company that this appointment may or is likely to result in a need for the Client to appoint Solicitors to act for, advise or otherwise provide a service to the Client then, by this appointment, the Client appoints the Company as the Clients agent for the purpose of assisting in the definition of the scope of the conduct of Solicitors and for the purpose of inviting suitable Solicitors to approach the Client direct with a view to them receiving whatever instructions the client may choose to give such Solicitors in this regard "
"My two principal contacts at Knowles were Andrew Rainsberry and Adam Tomlinson, both of whom provided DMW with legal advice and both of whom are understood to be qualified, practising, barristers or solicitors. We already had a Contract Administrator, and employer's agent/site presence, and a Project Manager - what we needed was a lawyer. The questions that we posed to Knowles when we took them on were all of a legal nature and it was very clear to me that the advice I received was both legal in nature and from people who held themselves out to be Lawyers. Knowles also provided programming advice to us, but I understand that that category of Knowles' work has been disclosed.
Knowles worked for DMW until about March 2008 and at no time did my understanding of Knowles' role as legal advisers providing legal advice to DMW change."
The Law
"82. I consider that this court is bound to hold that LPP does not apply, at common law, in relation to any professional other than a qualified lawyer: a solicitor or barrister, or an appropriately qualified foreign lawyer. That is the effect of Wilden Pump, and it is binding on us despite Lord Pannick's arguments, whether based on human rights or on an attempt to distinguish the case.
83.Even if we were not so bound, I would conclude that it is not open to the court to hold that LPP applies outside the legal profession, except as a result of relevant statutory provisions. It is of the essence of the rule that it should be clear and certain in its application, since it is not the subject of any ad hoc balancing exercise but is, to all intents and purposes, absolute. As applied to members of the legal professions, acting as such, it is sufficiently clear and certain. If it were to apply to members of other professions who give advice on points of law in the course of their professional activity, serious questions would arise as to its scope and application. To which accountants should it apply, given that "accountant" does not by itself denote membership of any particular professional body, or the obligation to comply with any, or any particular, professional obligations? To which other professional advisers would it apply? To what areas of the law would it apply as regards the advice of any adviser who is not a lawyer as such? These questions are serious and important, and would require a clear answer in order that the scope and application of the extended LPP should be known and understood."
"The privilege is confined to the cases of counsel, solicitor, and attorney; but in order to raise the privilege, it must be proved that the information, which the adverse party wishes to learn, was communicated to the witness in one of those characters; for if he be employed merely as a steward, he may be examined."
"However, that is an exceptional case, and it seems to me that it does not take out what Lord Pannick needs to take from it, if function had been the test, then it may be that a person who had been a solicitor but had recently retired might be regarded as every bit as qualified to give legal advice as he had been before retirement. But the judgement makes it clear that if the client had known that Mr Mullings was no longer a solicitor, then the privilege would not be available. This is an exception which proves (i.e. tests) the rule, but it does not seem to me that the recognition of the exception, by itself, altered the nature of the rule so as to apply more generally beyond the seeking and giving of legal advice from and by professional lawyers."
"In our opinion the privilege should be strictly confined to legal advisers such as solicitors and counsel, who are professionally qualified, who are members of professional bodies, who are subject to the rules and etiquette of their professions, and who owe a duty to the court. This is a clearly defined and easily identifiable qualification for the attachment of privilege. To extend the privilege to unqualified advisers such as personnel consultants is in our opinion unnecessary and undesirable."
Lord Justice Lloyd comments on the words "such as solicitors and counsel" which Counsel had relied on:
"I do not see that the use of the phrase "such as", rather than "namely" or some other such phrase, can be taken as showing that the rule is not restricted to members of the two English legal professions but extend to others who could be called legal advisers, but are not professional lawyers as such. As such it does not add to other previous cases, and of course it does not bind the Court of Appeal."
Discussion
Conclusion