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NOMINET DISPUTE RESOLUTION SERVICE
DRS 00145
VISTA COMPUTER SERVICES LIMITED
-AND-
ANKOSTUFF LIMITED
RE: VISTACOMP.CO.UK
Decision of Independent Expert
Parties:Complainant: | Vista Computer Services Limited | ||
Respondent: | AnkoStuff Limited | ||
Represented by: | Mr. Robin Tobin, director | ||
Respondent: | Mr David Clayton |
Abbreviations used in this decision:
Abbreviation | Definition |
The Domain Name | vistacomp.co.uk |
The .com Domain Name | vistacomp.com |
Vista Intl. | Vista International, a US company, parent company of the VISTA UK |
Vista UK | Vista Computer Services Limited, the Complainant |
Anko | AnkoStuff Limited, the Respondent |
The .com Website | http://www.vistacomp.com |
AnkoStuff's Website | http://www.anko.co.uk |
DRS | Nominet UK's Dispute Resolution Service |
DRS Policy | Nominet UK's Dispute Resolution Service Policy |
Outstanding Formal/Procedural Issues (if any):
Date | Event |
/ /77 | Vista Intl. Founded in the US |
16/3/90 | "VISTA" registered as a trademark for class 9 services (no. 1210742) |
14/5/92 | Vista UK incorporated |
6/7/94 | "VISTA" registered as a trademark for class 16 services (no. 1231798) |
13/7/94 | Trademarks 1210742 and 1231798 assigned to Vista UK |
21/4/95 | .com Domain Name registered by one of the Vista entities (contact address on the "whois" search is at the UK offices) |
/ /97 | The .com Website opened by Vista Intl and Vista UK |
4/7/00 | Mr. Tobin registers anko.co.uk |
3/8/01 | AnkoStuff incorporated |
15/10/01 | Mr. Iorio, said to be from Corporate Investment Int'l, contacts AnkoStuff for information by e-mail, |
25/10/01 | AnkoStuff seeks pricing information from Vista |
31/10/01 | Mr. Tobin e-mails Fintan Fitzpatrick of Vista UK informing him that AnkoStuff would like to use images of Vista's products in its marketing material and asking for "any specific objections" |
1/11/01 | Mr. Martin Puttock of Vista UK e-mails Mr. Tobin asking him to telephone him. |
1/11/01 | Mr. Tobin contacts Mr. Puttock of Vista UK by telephone from a restaurant asking to use images of Vista products in its marketing material |
2/11/01 | Mr. Tobin sends Mr. Puttock an e-mail confirming his request of the previous day |
9/11/01 | E-mail and Letter Memery Crystal to AnkoStuff concerning alleged libellous material and material reproduced in breach of copyright on AnkoStuff's Website |
10/11/01 | AnkoStuff register the Domain Name using FasthostsThe Domain Name is used to direct users to AnkoStuff's Website |
11/11/01 | Mr. Tobin replies to Memery Crystal in the following terms:
"...However, to assist your client and the publishing community in general, we are intending to provide a forum (http://www.vistacomp.co.uk) for a constructive exchange of views for your clients customers as well as, of course, very generously giving your client some free additional exposure. We may then all accurately gauge whether phrases that your client takes the inaccurate view are directed solely at them are 'fair and true' or not. AnkoStuff Limited will follow the consensus view from that forum. We hope to get the forum up and running in the course of the next few weeks." |
14/11/01 | Letter Memery Crystal to AnkoStuff:
"We note that on 10th November 2001 you registered the Domain Name. The only plausible reason for you having registered the Domain Name is that you did so in bad faith. This is identical to our client's long registered top level domain name and you have no right to register it. It is liable to cause confusion and mislead our client's existing and prospective customers into believing the Website is owned or licensed by our client. Furthermore, you are seeking to gain an unfair advantage by an increased number of "free" website hits and exposure to potential new customers. Accordingly any use by you of the Dornain Name will constitute an actionable passing off. Our client is prepared to pay £100 to a charity of its choice and to prepare all necessary forms for the Domain Name to be transferred to it. Kindly confirm whether or not you will consent to such an assignment." |
15/11/01 | E-mail AnkoStuff to Memery Crystal:
"With specific reference to the issue of the domain name (vistacomp.co.uk) for which AnkoStuff Limited holds the registration. There is no intention to in anyway be associated with your client and its products, indeed the thought is more than a little embarrassing to us, so we will remove the reference which takes users to our own temporary site. We do however take issue with your ridiculous suggestion that we had no right to do so. It was a currently unregistered name and we registered it -as we think you will find we are perfectly entitled to do. We have clearly explained the purpose for this registration, so we will not repeat ourselves here. Your clients, of course, were perfectly entitled to register the domain but chose not to do so. If you wish to take this matter further then we suggest you follow the agreed procedure for such disputes. If your clients wishes to purchase this particular domain from us, in order to attempt to avoid the dispute process then, we suggest that they tender an offer which we will, of course, consider on its commercial merit at any such time. We look forward to hearing from you that this matter is now at a close, in default you have our address for service, we strongly suggest you either use t or allow us to get on with the running of our business." At some point, the Domain Name is directed to the Red Cross website. |
4/12/01 | Exchange of e-mails:
Memery Crystal to AnkoStuff: "In a last attempt to settle this matter amicably, our client maintains its offer to pay £100 to a charity of your choice, and will prepare the documentation necessary to transfer the ownership of the Domain Name from AnkoStuff Limited to Vista Computer Services Limited. In addition, our client offers you a sum equal to your out-of-pocket costs directly associated with acquiring or using the Domain Name. In relation to what you say as to establishing a forum for your marketing, we would strongly suggest you first take legal advice in order to avoid infringing any rights of our client." AnkoStuff to Memery Crystal: "With reference to our previous e-mail communications, I think I made it quite clear that the eventual purpose of this domain name is as a forum for publishers to exchange views etc regarding their requirements for publishing solutions. We undertake to do no more than host the forum, i.e. no marketing material, links, logos and so forth. This is surely for the benefit the whole publishing industry including of course your client. Indeed, in that spirit, we immediately, once you had notified us, as to the possible confusion that may ensue, removed the redirect to our own site. However, in the interests of settling this now prolonged distraction1 we will agree to transfer the domain to your client for a sum approximating (as far, of course, as one can) the satisfaction and enjoyment we would be giving up. We estimate this sum to be £7,500 + VAT. Together with £500 to a charity of our choice. We will canvas, our staff and let you know the consensus on the charity. Once, we have had notification that we are in receipt of cleared funds the IPS tag will be released to your client." |
10/12/01 | The Domain Name by now directs users to the "Dilbert Comic Strip Archive" at http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive |
17/12/01 | Offensive e-mail AnkoStuff to Memery Crystal indicating that the correspondence has been shown to publishers, distributors, employees of (Vista Intl) and journalists here and in the US. |
27/12/01 | Offensive e-mail from Mr. Tobin to Memery Crystal referring to Mr. Tom Henson as "young Tom", "Tommy Boy" and "a bit of a knob about things"; threatening to take correspondence to "the pub with our friends from Clifford Chance, Denton Hall, the Law Society etc. |
4/2/02 | E-mail AnkoStuff to Nominet indicating that Mr. Tobin and "Tim" have accepted an offer from a 3rd party for the Domain Name and requesting a transfer. |
5/2/02 | The Domain Name by now directs users to a "forum" "home page" in AnkoStuff's Website at http://www.anko.co.uk/forum.html
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"a Domain Name which either:
i. was registered or otherwise acquired in a manner, which at the time when the registration or acquisition took place, took unfair advantage of or was unfairly detrimental to the Complainant's Rights; OR
ii. has been used in a manner, which took unfair advantage of or was unfairly detrimental to the Complainant's Rights."
Clause 3 of the DRS Policy sets out a non-exhaustive list of factors to which I may have regard in determining whether the registration of the Domain Name is abusive in the hands of AnkoStuff:
"Circumstances indicating that the Respondent has registered or otherwise acquired the Domain Name:
A. primarily for the purposes of selling, renting or otherwise transferring the Domain Name to the Complainant or to a competitor of the Complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of the Respondent's documented out-of-pocket costs directly associated with acquiring or using the Domain Name;
B. as a blocking registration against a name or mark in which the Complainant has Rights; or
C. primarily for the purpose of unfairly disrupting the business of the Complainant;"
(ii) Circumstances indicating that the Respondent is using the Domain Name in a way which has confused people or businesses into believing that the Domain Name is registered to, operated or authorised by, or otherwise connected with the Complainant"
(a) AnkoStuff has registered the .co.uk Domain Name primarily for the purposes of selling, renting or otherwise transferring the .co.uk Domain Name to VISTA or to a competitor of VISTA, for valuable consideration in excess of AnkoStuff's documented out-of-pocket costs directly associated with acquiring or using the .co.uk Domain Name. Support:
(i) VISTA's offer of 14 November 2001 was declined by AnkoStuff who in its reply of 15 November 2001 stated that, 'If your clients wishes (sic) to purchase this particular domain from us, in order to attempt to avoid the dispute process then, we suggest that they (VISTA) tender an offer which we will, of course, consider on its commercial merit at any such time.'
(ii) VISTA's further offer of 4 December 2001 included an offer to pay AnkoStuff's documented out-of-pocket costs directly associated with acquiring or using the .co.uk Domain Name.
(iii) This was also declined by AnkoStuff who requested payment of the sum of£7,500 plus VAT together with the payment of £500 to a charity of AnkoStuff's choice.
(iv) This is, Vista UK asserts, clear evidence of an intention by AnkoStuff to derive financial gain from the registration of the .co.uk Domain Name.
(b) AnkoStuff has registered the .co.uk Domain Name as a blocking registration against a name or mark in which VISTA has Rights.
Support:
(i) When AnkoStuff registered the .co.uk Domain Name, it knew of the existence of VISTA's Rights. AnkoStuff comments in its e-mail of 15 November 2001 in relation to the .co.uk Domain Name that, 'It was a currently unregistered name and we registered it - as we think you will find we are perfectly entitled to do... Your clients of course, were perfectly entitled to register the domain but chose not to do so.'
(ii) VISTA is considering creating a localised version of the VISTA website to promote the VISTA brand in the UK.
(iii) AnkoStuff's registration of the .co.uk Domain Name is a blocking registration preventing VISTA from using the .co.uk Domain Name as an address for its proposed UK website and setting up e-mail addresses for its employees at @vistacomp.co.uk.
(iv) AnkoStuff's e-mails of 11 and 15 November 2001 both indicate that AnkoStuff's employees are receiving e-mail at @vistacomp.co.uk.
(c) AnkoStuff has registered the .co.uk Domain Name primarily for the purpose of unfairly disrupting VISTA's business.
Support:
(i) AnkoStuff's business and AnkoStuff's Website appear to be in the very early stages of development. On AnkoStuff's Website AnkoStuff's mission statement boldly declares that it intends 'to produce cross platform solutions which reflect the way publishing actually works and are within the reach of all'. AnkoStuff's Website refers to services and solutions that AnkoStuff is developing. However, these services and solutions are not yet available for sale and there is little indication as to when they will be.
(ii) It is submitted that AnkoStuff has illegitimately used the .co.uk Domain Name as part of its overall strategy to enhance awareness of its "coming to market" which has unfairly disrupted VISTA's business for the following alternative reasons:-
(A) the individuals behind AnkoStuff have clearly worked in the publishing industry and are aware of VISTA's Rights. Their awareness that VISTA had already registered the .com Domain Name and consequently that registration of the .co.uk Domain Name would contravene VISTA's Rights is evidence that the registration was made to disrupt VISTA's business and amounts to an abusive registration.
(B) The .co.uk Domain Name was registered on behalf of AnkoStuff the day after VISTA first raised the issue of the contents of AnkoStuff's Website. The registration was clearly made to disrupt VISTA's business in retaliation to Memery Crystal's letter of 9 November 2001 and/or was pre-planned to cause maximum disruption.
(C) The .co.uk Domain Name was directly linked to AnkoStuff's Website. Thus, Internet users using the .co.uk Domain Name were taken to AnkoStuff's Website directly. Following Memery Crystal's letter of 14 November 2001 the .co.uk Domain Name re-directed Internet users to the International Red Cross website at http://www.redcross.org. AnkoStuff admitted that it was responsible for the direct link to AnkoStuff's Website in its e-mail of 15 November 2001 when it stated that, 'There is no intention to in anyway (sic) be associated with your client and its products, indeed the thought is more than a little embarrassing to us, so we will remove the reference which takes users to our own temporary site.'
(D) This diverting action is evidence that AnkoStuff registered the .co.uk Domain Name primarily for the purpose of unfairly disrupting the business of VISTA. VISTA's current and potential customers may mistakenly access AnkoStuff's Website when typing in "www.vistacomp.co.uk" in error instead of "www.vistacomp.com". This gives AnkoStuff an unfair advantage by an increased number of "free" website hits and exposure to new customers by attracting Internet users to AnkoStuff's Website for commercial gain. Further, AnkoStuff may inadvertently intercept e-mail designed to go to VISTA. AnkoStuff can still re-direct VISTA's current and potential customers from the .co.uk Domain Name to AnkoStuff's Website at any time while they own the .co.uk Domain Name.
(E) AnkoStuff stated in its e-mail of 30 October 2001 that 'they intend to aggressively market our solutions and would like to use some images generated from your (VISTAs) publishing solutions as a comparison'. This indicates that AnkoStuff registered the .co.uk Domain Name to obtain leverage with VISTA to encourage a prospective business arrangement in bad faith.
(F) This is further demonstrated in AnkoStuff's reply of 15 November 2001 when AnkoStuff suggests it will listen to offers of 'commercial merit' to sell the .co.uk Domain Name and its counter-offer of 4 December 2001. This disrupts VISTA's business as VISTA waste time, energy and financial resources dealing with matters arising from the infringement of VISTA's Rights.
(d) VISTA believes that AnkoStuff is using the .co.uk Domain Name in a way which has confused people or businesses into believing that the .co.uk Domain Name is registered to, operated or authorised by, or otherwise connected with VISTA.
Support:
(i) As outlined above, AnkoStuff directly linked the .co.uk Domain Name to AnkoStuff's Website which advertises competing services and solutions. This direct link is liable to confuse people or businesses into believing that the .co.uk Domain Name was registered to, operated by or authorised by, or otherwise in connection with VISTA.
(ii) AnkoStuff's continued ownership of the .co.uk Domain Name also confuses people or businesses into believing that the .co.uk Domain Name is registered to, operated by or authorised by, or otherwise connected with VISTA. There is a likelihood that AnkoStuff will re-direct the .co.uk Domain Name to AnkoStuff's Website while they are registered owners of it.
(iii) VISTA's trade marks are distinctive of the services and solutions that VISTA sell. The use of the word "VISTA" in the .co.uk Domain Name means that the .co.uk Domain Name is similar to VISTA's trade marks. AnkoStuff purports to offer the same services and solutions and compete in the same market as VISTA.
Respondent:(a) Concerning the timing of the registration:
(b) Concerning its intention to set up a forum as a service for the publishing industry
(c) Denying any intention to make a commercial gain from the registration and
(d) Asserting that Vista UK and Memery Crystal's actions are indicative of a threatening and bullying approach to those who threaten and aspire to compete in the same market.
(a) This is not an abusive registration as there has been no intentional infringing of Vista UK's rights.
(b) it would very much wish to be left with the domain as registered in order to produce a forum and resource for the entire publishing industry which will of course benefit Vista UK and would have no direct or indirect commercial benefit for AnkoStuff, indeed would be a drain on its resources.
(c) This complaint is simply a strand of Vista UK's attempt to hamper the coming to market of product in competition to that of its clients.
Discussion and Findings:
Decision
Kirsten Houghton
Date: 7 February 2002
The Response
Complaint No.: 000145 Vista Computer Services Limited v AnkoStuff Limited 1) Background - Company AnkoStuff Limited ('the company') is relatively newly formed company (see annex 1) and has as its purpose the development and marketing of publishing management solutions primarily to small to medium sized publishers both in the UK and the US. Although the company itself is new, the employees and shareholders have been in the business (both on a freelance basis and as in-house employees) of the provision of publishing management solutions and other services largely but not exclusively for legal publishers over the course of a number of years. Contrary to the statement in the complainants form ('AnkoStuff's Website refers to services and solutions that AnkoStuff is developing ... these services and solutions are not yet available for sale') our solutions are developed and are offered for sale (from end November 2001), see annex 2. 2) Background - Contact Between The Parties Our first contact with the complainant was on 15/10/2001 when we received an e-mail from Luke Lorio, the marketing manager of Vista (see annex 3, exhibit 1) posing as a potential customer asking for more details of our solutions. Our next contact was on the 25/10/2001 when we e-mailed the complainant to request some information on behalf of a client (see annex 3, exhibit 2) Thereafter, as a result of a number of failed attempts to illicit information on behalf of a client, we decided that a small part of our marketing strategy would be to highlight the inability of the complainant, Trilogy Computers Limited and Schilling A/S (fellow publishing solution providers) to respond to potential customers. We also at this time became aware that our now completed solution made those of our competitors look extremely 'old fashioned and out of touch'. We received advice that we could publish on our web site what were in effect comparative examples of database output, as copyright was extremely difficult in this area - the actual content was that of the publisher and the document in question had as it's very purpose the broadest dissemination possible of the information contained within it. And there was no intent to infringe the rights of the complainant and its fellow solution providers in the software itself. Notwithstanding our advice, we decided as a courtesy to the complainant to check whether they had any specific objections to our use of an such image (see annex 3, exhibit 3). In reponse to our e-mail, we received a phone call from a Martin Puttock (the European Sales Director for the complainant), unfortunately, we were unable to take the call at the time, but I e-mailed him the next day to ask what his objections were (see annex 3, exhibit 4). In response we received a letter dated 9/11/2001 alleging that we had both defamed and breached the copyright of the complainant (see annex 3, exhibit 5). Our advice was that there was no defamation but in any event we slightly amended the text on our web site (see annex 4) to ensure that there could be no possible defamatory intent. Again our advice was that any copyright infringement was highly questionable and as the complainant's solicitor had not made out any specific argument that related to the actual infringement they alleged then we were perfectly justified in leaving the web site as it was. The complainant's solicitors letter of 9/11/2001, did however, set us thinking that perhaps this was a pattern of behaviour for the complainant and perhaps explained why the publishing solutions market is generally acknowledged to be under serviced. As a result, we decided to set up a forum for publishers and other industry companies and organisations to air their views on publishing technology and related issues. To that end we registered the domain in question as having just received the letter from their solicitor's their name was in the forefront of our minds and we assumed that as it was available despite the complainants assertion that it was considering a .co.uk site that this couldn't actually be the case as they had been in business for many years and hadn't bothered to register the domain previously. Indeed, we take issue with the assertion in their complaint's form that they are considering building a localised web site at the domain as any company in that situation, as a first measure, makes sure that the domain in question is currently available. The proposed forum as repeatedly stressed in the correspondence (see annex 3, exhibits 6, 11, 13, and 14) is not intended as a marketing vehicle for AnkoStuff Limited and will contain no references, logos etc. to AnkoStuff Limited or its solutions. Indeed, we invited the complainant to participate in the forum to underline that this is purely intended as a service to the publishing industry and in, no, way, shape or form to be of commercial benefit to ourselves. We also stress that the domain was not registered with the intent of commercial gain from any sale - we at no time approached the complainant offering to sell the domain - we simply asserted that in a hypothetical situation where the complainant having not exercised the option to register the domain during the course of many years suddenly felt the urge to do so we would wish to be compensated for the effort spent/satisfaction forgone from the running of the forum. It is and always has been the case that we would very much like to not sell the domain but go ahead to use it as previously mentioned and hopefully benefit the wider publishing community. There is no intent to pass ourselves off as the complainant or gain from misdirections to our own web site as soon as it was pointed out that the redirection from vistacomp.co.uk to our site could be misconstrued and upon taking advice, we immediately redirected that domain's traffic to the Red Cross site. Indeed, as the complainant points out in the complaint form, we would indeed be very embarrassed to be associated with the complainant and its solutions as we have invested a great deal of time, energy and resource into the development of products which we believe to be incomparably superior and at a fraction of the cost. We have never used the e-mail addresses at vistacomp.co.uk nor is there any intention to do so these were simply quoted in an e-mail to the complainant largely we are sorry to say for our own amusement as we simply didn't take the complaints seriously particularly as the correspondence although marked urgent was clearly nothing of the sort, for example, we received correspondence on 15/11/2001 marked 'urgent' (see annex 3, exhibit 7) to which we replied by return. We then heard nothing further until 4/12/2001. The Issue Of Abusive Registration This was not an abusive registration. AnkoStuff Limited is a very new company so the idea that it registered the domain or otherwise acquired it in a manner which, at the time when the registration took place, took unfair advantage of or was unfairly detrimental to the rights of a company which claims to be the largest in its particular market (we have to take the complainant's word for this as there has been no evidence of market share provided) must be quite clearly nonsense. We accept that due to our naivety the domain did redirect to our site. But as soon as this had been pointed out we corrected it immediately. Currently the domain redirects to the complainant's site and this will the case until the initial work on the proposed forum is completed. So save for that incident and our misguided humour at including e-mail addresses which gave the false impression that we were receiving e-mail at the domain there has been and certainly will not be any attempt to take unfair advantage of or to be unfairly prejudicial to the complainant's rights. We certainly do not wish to gain monetarily from the domain, please note the complainant approached us and we simply responded in an attempt to put them off in order that we could keep the domain and continue work on the forum. For whatever reason the complainant and its solicitors have decided that the way to compete in the publishing solutions market is to threaten and bully those who aspire to enter. It is clear from the correspondence (see annex 3 generally) that the complainant's solicitors have simply intended to stifle the coming to market of competing product. This in effect has amounted to little more than harassment as none of the complainant's allegations have ever been substantiated. But, please note that they are still continuing to look to issue further unsubstantiated allegations as we see them every day come on to our site (see annex 5). We confirm that the IP address 213.235.8.251 resolves to an address within the Memery Crystal domain of memerycrytsal.com. To be blunt, it is our view that this complaint is simply part of the same process. In Conclusion o This is not an abusive registration as there has been no intentional infringing of the complaint's rights. o We would very much wish to be left with the domain as registered in order to produce a forum and resource for the entire publishing industry which will of course benefit the complainant and would have no direct or indirect commercial benefit for AnkoStuff, indeed would be a drain on our resources. o This complaint (as evidenced by the correspondence at annex 3) is simply a strand of the complainant's attempt to hamper the coming to market of product in competition to that of it's clients.