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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Elabed v. BBC Arabic Service [2001] UKEAT 0358_00_0507 (5 July 2001) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2001/0358_00_0507.html Cite as: [2001] UKEAT 358__507, [2001] UKEAT 0358_00_0507 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE HOOPER
MRS T A MARSLAND
MR R N STRAKER
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MR A SHORT Solicitor Messrs Thomas Watts & Co Solicitors 19-21 Kensington Church Street Kensington London W8 4LF |
For the Respondent | MISS M CARSS-FRISK (One of Her Majesty's Counsel) British Broadcasting Corporation Litigation Department BBC White City 201 Wood Lane London W12 7TS |
MR JUSTICE HOOPER
"..are accepted by the Tribunal as the true reasons for not doing so."
"I first came across Jamil (Elabed) when he joined the staff on his first day. I took him all around the Arabic Service and introduced him to all members of staff. This was standard treatment. I was pleased that there was another Syrian member of staff as there were other Syrians working in the Arabic Service: Alya Charabati (Senior Producer), Dr Abdulrazzak Al-Sayed (Deputy Editor) and Dr Ziyad Hakim (Producer). Another Syrian producer in the Service, Faisal Al Kasim, who had done first class work in the Service was seconded by me around that time to the new television channel, where soon afterwards he was offered a highly paid position as a news presenter. In April 1995, he was selected for the post of Senior Producer, Current Affairs in the Arabic Service. Both Hassan Muawad and I were members of the board who selected him. However, he did not take up that offer, preferring to accept the presenter post in BBC Arabic Television. After the television channel closed in 1996, he went on to work in the same capacity in an international satellite television news station. He is now an established television presenter."
"In the course of a recent Industrial Tribunal it came to light that a paragraph in a statement made by Gamon McLellan in relation to your case numbers 48140/96, 2202170/97, 2205310/97, contains some inaccuracies.
Gamon McLellan's statement states that in the Board for Senior Producers in April 1994 the Board had selected Faisal Al Kasim as the successful candidate. In fact the date given was not accurate. The Senior Producer Selection Board in question was in 1994 and it took place in 24th October and 4th November of 1994. Faisal Al Kasim was interviewed by the board and was unanimously considered to be the outstanding candidate. However, before the Board announced the results Faisal Al Kasim withdrew his application because he had been offered a position as an announcer in World Service Television at a salary substantially above that for the Senior Producer post which he had applied for. That was the reason why the Board minutes noted that the successful candidate was Fouad Razak.
The BBC were concerned that this matter should be clarified, hence this letter to you."
" Thank you for attending the selection panel interview on 24th October and for informing us before the board was reconvened on 4th November that you wished to withdraw your application as you had been offered a contract by Arabic Television.
Members of the selection panel would like me to convey that you were considered a strong candidate for the post of Senior Producer and should be encouraged to apply for any similar vacancies in the future if this fits in with your career plan.
We would like to wish you all the best with your new contract and thank you for the contribution you have made and will no doubt continue to make to the Arabic Service.
If you would like any feedback on your motivational questionnaire please ring Barbara Milliken on 07-14758. As you are aware, this was not in any way a deciding factor in the selection process but, if you are interested, I would be happy to explain how it was helpful in making the interview more focused and relevant to you."
"The ground upon which the Applicant seeks a review is that the decision of the 8 September 1998 is based " wholly or in part on perjured evidence". At the full merits hearing in July 1998 the unanimous decision of the Tribunal, as recorded in the decision sent to the parties on 11 September 1998 was that the Applicant had not been subjected to racial discrimination, as he alleged. The Tribunal's reasons for its decision are as set out in the extended reasons decision dated 8 September 1998. In coming to its decision the Tribunal had regard to the evidence before it. Whilst the Applicant has identified an area of discrepancy in the evidence of Gamon McLellan to this Tribunal in July 1998 and that given by him in July 1999 in the case of Jiad v BBC Arabic Service, this Tribunal is satisfied that the area of discrepancy is neither material to its decision as promulgated not would it have affected its decision that the Applicant was not subjected to racial discrimination had it been presented in July 1998. In these circumstances the Tribunal accepts the Respondent' submission that the Applicant has not established the evidential discrepancy identified, in the course of this application for review, was either material to or influential in the Tribunal's decision of September 1998. Accordingly, on this ground alone, the Tribunal has concluded that the Applicant's application has no reasonable prospect of success."
"For the purpose of this decision the Tribunal records that Mr Gamon McLellan did not give evidence. This decision therefore does not extend to making any finding with regard to whether his evidence before this Tribunal in July 1998, as compared to his evidence in the case of Jiad v BBC Arabic Service was either inaccurate or misleading."
"I checked with Hassan as to which of the two boards it was where Faisal had been selected. He confirmed to me that it was the earlier board and we both thought it had been in April 1995, which was the date I included incorrectly in my statement."
Mr Short, rightly, takes no point on the discrepancy in the date between 1995 and 1994.
"I was writing the statement in 1998 and I was referring to matters which had taken place more than three years earlier. In addition to this, I was under some pressure in trying to do my job as Head of the Arabic Service and deal with the myriad of applications which had been received and attend Tribunals on a fairly regular basis."
"At the time I added the detail about the board, I was working in the evening after returning from one of the other cases, and it would have been difficult to have checked the information with the records which exist in different departments of the BBC World Service. I had spoken to Hassan about it, and his any my recollections seemed to be similar. I had no intention of misleading the Tribunal. At the time I believed the information I included in the statement was accurate."
"As may be seen from the statements of the other members of that selection board Hassan Muawad, Jeff Phillips, who was the Regional News Editor, and Anne Dent, who was our Personnel Officer, and the Chairman of the Board Faisal Al Kasim had been a candidate and the Board's unanimously agreed first choice. However, before the final decision and the promulgation of the result in the formal Minute, Faisal withdrew his application. He did this, I believe, by telephone, because, as I said in my statement, he had been offered and decided to accept a more lucrative job as a news presenter in the BBC Arabic Television Service, which had started earlier that year (1994). As I said in my statement, after the closure of the station in 1996, he went on to present the news in an international satellite television news station, where he has been very successful."
"I have remembered accurately that Faisal had been our preferred candidate and that he did not take up the position because he chose to accept another job. The Board took place on 24 October and 4 November 1994, rather than April 1995. He was not formally offered the post because of the withdrawal of his application before we could make the formal offer. He was, however, the Board's preferred candidate. Had he not withdrawn, he would have been appointed."
"Had I remembered accurately, I would have been satisfied to explain that Faisal had been our first candidate. The point I sought to make remains valid, namely that the BBC's preferred candidate at the Board was the Syrian."
"I recall that Faisal Al Kasim was interviewed on the first day and was an outstanding candidate. He was Markedly better than all the others we saw. It was a very easy unanimous decision that he was the first choice of the Board."
"Had Faisal not withdrawn his application, there is no doubt that he would have been appointed as the Senior Producer following that Board."
" an outstanding candidate".
"I have recently re-read a copy of the Board Minute and have seen that it was noted that we selected Fouak Razak. I have also seen that it was because Faisal Al Kasim withdrew his application before the final decision. Had he not done so Faisal Al Kasim would have been the candidate appointed. He was, without doubt, and this was the unanimous view of the Board, the best candidate we saw."