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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> City of Edinburgh Council v Marr & Ors [2007] UKEAT 0082_06_0412 (4 December 2007) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2007/0082_06_0412.html Cite as: [2008] IRLR 279, [2007] UKEAT 82_6_412, [2007] UKEAT 0082_06_0412 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE LADY SMITH
(SITTING ALONE)
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
For the Appellants | Mr I Truscott (One of Her Majesty's Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Pinsent Masons Solicitors 123 St. Vincent Street Glasgow G2 5EA & City of Edinburgh Council Corporate Services Legal Division City Chambers High Street Edinburgh EH1 1YJ |
For the Respondents | No appearance or representation by or on behalf of the Respondents |
SUMMARY
Practice and Procedure – Case management
Equal pay claims. Employment Tribunal had ordered Respondents, prior to section 1(6) hearings, prior to any Stage 1 Equal Value hearings and prior to Claimants having identified comparators, to answer questions to which they objected on the basis that it required them to disclose their defence to an extent that went beyond the Tribunal's discretion.
THE HONOURABLE LADY SMITH
Introduction
Background
"In exercise of the powers conferred on the Chairman by Rule 12 of the Rules of Procedure contained in Schedule 1 to the Employment Tribunals (Constitution and Rules of Procedure) Regulations 2004 you are hereby required to provide written answers to the questions set out in the attached Schedule. You are required to provide the above answers within 42 days of the date of service of this Order to the Secretary of the Tribunals at the address shown at the top of this Order with a copy to the claimant or claimant's representative.
In terms of Rule 12(2)(b) you may apply to the Tribunal to vary or set aside this Order. Any such application should be made in writing to the Secretary of the Tribunal immediately upon receipt of this Order and should set out the grounds for the application.
If the Order is not complied with a Chairman or Tribunal may at a Pre- Hearing Review or a Hearing make an Order in terms of Rule 13(1)(b) to strike out the whole or part of the response."
"2(a) Is it the respondent's position that if there is found to be a difference in pay between the claimant and any of her male comparators that this difference is genuinely due to a material factor which is not the difference of sex?
(b) If so, what is this difference and why would it justify any difference in pay which is found to exist?"
"While the Vice President appreciates that some of the information sought in this order might have been the subject of disclosure consequent upon the Stage 1 Equal Value hearing which will be fixed in due course, she considers there is merit in information being exchanged between the parties before such a hearing takes place in order to maximise the usefulness of that hearing and to assist in identifying at an early state where there are preliminary issues arising. She trusts you will co-operate in that process."
The Relevant Law
Equal Pay
"By its very nature, equal pay assumes a process of comparison."
"... the industrial tribunal was choosing the person with whom to make the comparison as to whether or not there was like work and ignored the proposition put forward by the applicant that it was another person with whom comparison should be made in assessing whether or not there was like work. This is so obviously a misdirection that it is unnecessary to deal with the matter in any further detail."
"… men shall be treated as in the same employment with a woman if they are men employed by her employer … at the same establishment or at establishments in Great Britain which include that one and at which common terms and conditions are observed either generally or for employees of the relevant classes."
"genuinely due to a material factor which is not the difference of sex".
"104. It will be seen from the structure of the equal pay legislation that the principle is that once a woman demonstrates that her job is either like work of work of equal value to that of her male chosen comparator, there is a presumption of discrimination on grounds of sex. It is then for the employer to rebut that presumption."
Interfering with the Tribunal's Exercise of Discretion
"(a) Is the order made one within the powers given to the tribunal? (b) Has the discretion been exercised within guiding legal principles? … ( c) Can the exercise of the discretion be attacked on the principles in Associated Provincial Picture Houses Ltd v Wednesbury Corporation [1948] 1 KB 223?"
The Appeal
"... the Employment Tribunal erred in law in exercising its discretion in ordering the Appellants to disclose their defence under section 1(3) of the Equal Pay Act to the claimant's equal pay claim in circumstances where neither the comparators nor the basis of claim have been established. In doing so, they have acted in a way no reasonable tribunal properly instructing itself would act. Having regard to South Tyneside Council v Anderson & Ors EAT/0002/05 albeit addressing a Documents Order rather than a Questions Order. The proper exercise of discretion would have been to issue Orders stage by stage, thus only when the comparators and a basis of claim are identified should a defence be required, particularly as this might vary from case to case depending on the comparison."
"The council has also been invited to plead their GMF defences but again refuses to do so. Instead the council says that the Claimants must apply for new orders from the tribunal rather than themselves seeking an extension of time to now plead their case.
In accordance with Grundy v BA in the Court of Appeal (England) the burden of proof in respect of any GMF is on the respondent council. If they accept that they have no GMF then all the better for the Claimants but they must state their position.
It appears that the council are now putting all their eggs into a basket marked 'establishment' and seeking to rely on an argument based on section 1(6) of the 1970 Act. Again if that is their position then we are entitled to know that, If not they should plead their case properly.
The tribunal was within their powers to make the original order … The original orders were not perverse. The comparator jobs were identified from the start and the council must know the reason why it pays the additional sums to the comparator groups. The payments are fixed and unrelated to the identity of individuals in any event.
The council initially refused to provide the names of the comparators. I trust it is not being argued that the council has both the right to withhold this information and then demand the Claimants provide this information. In any event the council has now provided this information and they should now comply with the orders."
Discussion and Decision
Disposal