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[2001] UKSSCSC CG_2119_2001 (13 September 2001)
"When (the claimant's husband) moved in with me in 1983, we went down to the DSS at Gosford St. to hand in my WMA. (My husband) was claiming benefit for himself We were advised that we would have to claim benefits as a couple but that I could keep my WMA, as we were not married, and this would be deducted from my partner's benefit.
I was visited by (the first interviewing officer) about eighteen months ago and explained this to her. She said that it was an obviously an error on the part of the department.
I cannot remember very much about the interview at Gosford Street except that it was a woman (elderly with glasses) and I believe it took place on the second floor."
The claimant's husband's statement said:
"I can confirm my wife's statement. She thought she should not continue to receive WMA once we were living together. I was unemployed at the time. So we went down to the DSS at Gosford St. She explained the situation to the clerk who took the book, took down the number and gave it to (the claimant). (The claimant) queried this and the clerk said that she could keep it as log as we weren't married. She also said that (the claimant) would have to keep me. My benefit was then reduced to just over £5.00 per week as (the claimant's) WMA was being taken into account."
"(a) Records show that (the claimant's husband) claimed Unemployment Benefit from August 1982 to June 1983
(b) (The claimant's husband) qualified for Unemployment Benefit based on his employment record which was not affected by other income at that time.
(c) In 1982/1983 the Unemployment Benefit Offices were based at Park Court and Cheylesmore not Gosford Street and (the claimant's husband) would have been required to sign on for benefit. An increase of benefit could only be paid for a wife not a partner.
(d) There is no evidence of a claim to Supplementary benefit by either (the claimant's husband) or (the claimant). Even if the casepapers had subsequently been destroyed the index card showing claim dates is retained indefinitely.
(e) Had there been a claim for Supplementary Benefit, the counter staff and assessment officers were aware that receipt of Widows benefit was incompatible with a co-habitation arrangement and would not have calculated Supplementary Benfit entitlement on that basis.
(f) The instruction pages in (the claimant's order book clearly state that no more orders must be cashed if you commence living with a man as his wife."
"£11.50 per fortnight-not surprised at reduction. Only (illegible) lady. Signed on at Park Court but told at Gosford Street they would do it".
"(The presenting officer) made it clear in her closing statement that the case ultimately turned on whether or not the tribunal accepted the evidence of the appellant and (her husband), as if they did and disclosure of the change of circumstances had been made at the outset, there would be no basis for the repayment claim. Because of this the oral evidence was very carefully considered and tested carefully in further questioning as summarised below, and it has to be said that apart from the question of consistency the tribunal also got the impression that the evidence was being given frankly and truthfully to the best of their recollection. Both witnesses gave very similar accounts, which as (the claimant's representative) pointed out had been consistent throughout. They tell of a visit to Gosford Street Office of the benefits Agency to report the fact that they had commenced living together, as they were directed to do in the notes at the back of the order book. One of the credibility factors in their evidence is that it contained details which one could hardly have invented because they were irrelevant to the facts of the particular case before us. They both confirmed that the Widow's benefit Order book was handed over to a clerk on that occasion, who made some notes which appear to be calculations, and was then handed back. They were told that the appellant's benefit would not be affected unless they were married, but that (the claimant's husband's) would be affected considerably. (The presenting officer) made the point that that as the appellant was in receipt of what was then Unemployment Benefit, which was contributory, it would not be affected, but he was in fact getting what presumably was Income Support to cover rent of private accommodation. He was quite adamant throughout that following this interview his benefit was reduced to the sum of £11.50 per fortnight. The point was made by (the presenting officer) that his benefit matters would not have been dealt with at Gosford Street and that the evidence must therefore be wrong, but he insisted that although he signed on at Park Court he was told by the clerk at Gosford Street (a lady in her 50s) that she would notify them, and that she clearly did because of the consequent reduction in his benefit. All this is, of course, merely peripheral as the appeal is concerned with the appellant's benefit, which was quite properly dealt with at Gosford Street, where they attended.
Further common ground establishes that the appellant and (the claimant's husband) were married on 12 July 1997, and they duly registered the marriage certificate with the benefits Agency in September 1997, which presumably prompted the call by the visiting officer in October. Because of the missing visiting officer's report it is impossible to check, but the evidence of the appellant and The claimant's husband) was that they were told there would be no claim as it was clearly a departmental error. This might be more difficult to believe if it were not for the further long delay which at least suggests that no recovery action could have been the decision at the time in view of the failure to do anything about it, even after searching the benefit records relating to (the claimant's husband) as noted at paragraphs 4.5 and 4.6 of the submission.
The onus is on the Decision Maker to establish that misrepresentation caused or substantially contributed to the overpayment, though on balance of probabilities only, but consideration of the evidence in the light of the comments made above on each specific element, tips the scales of probability in the tribunal's view firmly in favour of the appellant, misrepresentation has not been established, and despite the size of the overpayment it must be regarded in consequence as irrecoverable."
(Signed) E A L Bano
Commissioner
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13 September 2002