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Mr. J. M. Henty CCS/761/2001
15.1.02
Departure direction – debts incurred before becoming an absent parent - application of regulation 16 of the Child Support Departure Direction and consequential Amendments Regulations1996 to personal loan taken out to repay debt incurred in respect of property which had been formerly occupied as matrimonial home
The absent parent and the parent with care purchased the matrimonial home with the assistance of a building society mortgage. That property was later sold leaving a negative equity of £10,000 which the couple continued to repay under a scheme arranged by the building society in June 1992. In August 1992 the couple separated. Subsequently in August 1996 the absent parent arranged with the building society to pay £5000 in full and final settlement of the outstanding debt by way of a personal loan. In due course the absent parent applied for a departure direction in respect of contact costs and his liability under the personal loan. His application was application was refused and the tribunal dismissed his appeal .The absent parent appealed to the Commissioner on the grounds that the personal loan replaced the original mortgage debt and that the mortgage debt was clearly a debt incurred before the absent parent had become an absent parent.
Held, allowing the appeal, that:
- following consideration of CCS/1645/1999, that where repayments were payable under a loan or mortgage in respect of a property which had been in the past, but was no longer, the home of the parent with care and any child in respect of whom the current assessment was made, then the payments did not fall within the exception in regulation 16(2)(h) and the payments did not constitute special expenses;
- it is important when considering regulation 16(2) and (4) to consider the situation as at the date of the absent parent's application.
"Paragraph (1) shall not apply to repayment of –
…
(h) amounts payable by the applicant under a mortgage or a loan taken out on the security of any property except where that mortgage or loan was taken out to facilitate the purchase of, or to pay for repairs or improvements to, any property which is the home of the parent with care and any child in respect of whom the current assessment was made;
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(k) a loan obtained by the applicant, other than a loan obtained from a qualifying lender or the applicant's current or former employer;"
It is I think quite plain that the original building society mortgage was taken out to facilitate the purchase of the matrimonial home and would therefore prima facie qualify under the proviso to (h).
Paragraph (4) provides as follows:
" (4) Where an applicant has incurred a debt partly to repay a debt or debts repayment of which would have fallen within paragraph (1), the repayment of that part of the debt incurred which is referable to the debts the payment of which would have fallen within that paragraph shall constitute expenses for the purposes of paragraph 2(2) of Schedule 4B to the Act."
" 1. It seems to me that the loan of £5,000 under the Personal Loan Agreement (21) was a new loan and not the original loan hiding under a different metamorphosis. It also seems to me – and I think was accepted at the hearing – that the original loan from the building society satisfied regulation 16(1), as must the balance outstanding of £10,000 after the house had been sold.
Paragraph (4) of regulation 16 provides (my emphasis):
"(4) Where an applicant has incurred a debt partly to repay a debt or debts repayment of which would have fallen within paragraph (1) the repayment of that part of the debt incurred which is referable to the debts repayment of which would have fallen within that paragraph shall constitute expenses …"
It seems to me that the £5,000 loan was incurred for the repayment of the original loan which was within 16(1). It seems to me that it is only the original loan which has to have the qualities of regulation 16(1), and the original loan in this case satisfied the exception in regulation 16(2)(h). It appears that regulation 16(1) is satisfied or not when it is taken out and there is no requirement for it to be satisfied "for the time being". Was CCS/1645/99 correctly decided? I do not find para. 15 easy to understand or very persuasive."
" 15. But I find that regulation 16(2)(h) applies to the original debt. This is because the house was repossessed and could not be C's home, or that of any child, at the time A made the application for the departure direction. The wording of regulation 16(2)(h) is set out in full above. It is unambiguous and clearly states that the house 'is' the home of either the parent with care or of a child. There is no rule dealing with the case where the house was the home but has been repossessed by a mortgagee, as occurred here. Nor can the effect of regulation 16(2)(k) be sidestepped because the mortgage or loan stopped being secured at the time of the repossession and sale (which was also, I assume, the time C left). The wording is 'taken out on the security'. The loan remained the same after the security was removed. It might be arguable that if the lender and borrowers had replaced the mortgage debt with another loan at that time then a replacement loan could have been allowed under regulation 16(4), but that did not happen in this case.
"16. I must therefore find that the original loan cannot have qualified under regulation 16. For that reason regulation 16(4) cannot apply to either of the two replacement loans even if they would otherwise have qualified."
The reference to "the original debt" was the mortgage taken out in 1989 concerning which the Commissioner, in paragraph 14 of his decision, held that all the conditions of regulation 16(1) were met for that loan. Similarly that is the case here.
I can see that regulation 16(2)(h) applies to the personal loan in this case, and the exception in that paragraph is inapplicable. But that still leaves the question whether regulation 16(4) is applicable.
" 19. In any event, I would argue that it would be strange to have a situation where a man paying a mortgage on a home no longer occupied by the PWC/child would not qualify for a departure while a man who took out a second debt to pay or repay [a] mortgage in the same situation would."
There is much common sense in that submission.
(Date) 15 January 2002 | (signed) J. M. Henty Commissioner |